Showing posts with label Meir Porush. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Meir Porush. Show all posts
Friday, December 27, 2013
Moshe Feiglin Also Attacks Bayit Yehudi Due To Mishkav Zachar; And His Attack Was Not Hypocritical
Deputy Knesset Chairman Moshe Feiglin (Likud) was the only nationalist MK to vote against a bill giving same-sex "couples" a tax break this week. The bill was voted for by Likud-Beytenu, and Jewish Home Chairman Naftali Bennett notice how he is the anti religious person in Bayit Yehudi. The remaining 11 Jewish Home MKs left the hall to abstain. Sheket was not there but wanted to vote for it
Only the hareidi-religious parties, Feiglin, and MK Eitan Cabel he voted against the bill because he wasn't sure the final bill would include the language explicitly mentioning mishkav zachar (the bill wasn't treiph enough) (Labor) opposed the bill, which was proposed by MK Adi Kol (Yesh Atid).
"Again it was proven that only the right is capable of expelling Jews, and only the "religious" are capable of harming the religion," Feiglin told Arutz Sheva.
"Last week it was the Jerusalem bill, before that it was the Bedouins in the Negev and the release of terrorists, and now recognition of same-sex "couples"," remarked Feiglin. "For the first time they have recognized an institution that undermines the normative family foundations and Jewish family values."The later part of his statement seems a lot stronger and on topic then Meir Porush's overall attack on Bayit Yehudi "which after 65 years lends a hand to passing many laws that are destroying Yiddishkheit"
Feiglin's comment on the Jerusalem bill refers to the absence of the nationalist camp in a vote last Wednesday, on a bill requiring 80 MKs to approve any Jerusalem withdrawals. Feiglin joined 11 hareidi MKs in voting for the bill that was rejected.
At the time, Feiglin said he "looked at the empty seats of Likud, Jewish Home, and Yisrael Beytenu, and when their names were called and 'not present' was called - I thought to myself, truly the 'right' is not present."
Feiglin calls the Jewish Home claims that the same-sex bill will be changed in committee debates "utter nonsense."
"They are trying to minimize the damage, but it won't happen," commented Feiglin. "We are witnesses to the attack on all foundational values of society, on all fronts, including the national identity and the gender and familial identity, and the coalition is giving a hand to it all."
"Unfortunately on all the meaningful fronts, the nationalist camp has not placed goals for itself," the Likud MK concluded.
Coalition allies Jewish Home and Yesh Atid found themselves at odds over the same-sex "marriage" issue initially, even leading to a coalition crisis.
Eventually a compromise was reached whereby same-sex couples would receive equal tax breaks but not through official recognition in the legislation, sparing Jewish Home from being perceived as officially condoning same-sex marriage.
Bennett's enabling of Yesh Atid's agenda has sparked criticism from within his own party, as Jewish Home MKs on Monday said Bennett and his confidante MK Ayelet Shaked are letting themselves be "pushed around" by Finance Minister Yair Lapid's party.
(Arutz Sheva)
While every single person in the keneset was mechiyuv to vote against this evil bill Feiglin was the only person who actually passed their nesayon. Politically this was a bad move for Feiglin to go against his own party and his coalition. Since the charadi Parties are in the opposition and their votes were not necessary for the vote to pass, They had no POLITICAL reason to support this bill and every POLITICAL reason to oppose it (like Meretz, and Labor from an anti Torah View). This besides the fact that Meir Porush has the added reason of criticizing Bayit Yehudi because to bash them where they are 100% wrong it helps fight the draft war.
Since Moshe Feiglin took a politically hard stance He's the one who obligates (see Yoma 35A) others to vote against this, and has the right, should, and did critique Bayit "Yehudi"!
Thursday, December 26, 2013
Meir Porush Hypocritically Yet Correctly Attacks Bayit Yehudi For Allowing Toevah
Ne'emanei Eretz Yisrael
The bill to grant tax incentives to to’eva "couples", sponsored by Yesh Atid, passed its preliminary reading in Knesset on Wednesday 22 Teves as expected. The bill is sponsored by MK Dr. Adi Koll and it was passed after it was reworded to obtain Bayit Yehudi’s support, critical towards passing the bill. The bill passed in a 40-22 vote.
In response, MK (Yahadut Hatorah) Meir Porush accuses Bayit Yehudi of being מכשיר את השרץ, legitimizing that which is unholy.
Bayit Yehudi agreed to support the bill after all reference to to’eva couples was removed. In its place, the bill stipulates the finance minister can decide to apply the law as he sees fit. There is no doubt that Yesh Atid leader Finance Minister Yair Lapid will apply it to to’eva couples, the original intention of the bill.
Porush points a finger of blame at the dati leumi party “which after
65 years lends a hand to passing many laws that are destroying
Yiddishkheit”.
It was a stormy Knesset session as Lapid told chareidim “we live in a society and of entitlement and responsibility and those who contribute to society will receive”.
For Porush and other chareidi lawmakers, their anger is directed at the dati leumi party, for its decision to support the bill was instrumental. or is it because of the draft?
(YWN)
If Agudah was so against this bill how come most charadim didn't even knew about this bill, which fight was going on for the past month?
How come Agudah is only protesting the draft and not something that is infinitely worse?
How come the mosetzes is only protesting the draft?
How could Aguda even think of having "increased cooperation" with Labor which didn't vote for this mishkav zachar bill because they weren't 100% that it will mention mishkav zachar by name?
How come Degel Hatorah met with Netanyahu and didn't speak out on Mishkav Zachar?
Speaking with Kikar Shabbos, Yahadut Hatorah MK Rabbi Menachem Eliezer Moses explains that he feels the planned shlichus of the admorim to the USA is already having an impact on state officials. Moses is confident they are already feeling the pressure since they understand the significance of the act.
Moses earlier in the week met with MK (Labor) Yitzchak Herzog, explaining he met with the opposition leader in his capacity as leader of Yahadut Hatorah in Knesset. “We are disappointment with Netanyahu’s performance and it appears he has forgotten we were once longtime partners” Moses adds.
Moses feels the future will bring increased cooperation between his party and Labor for they agree on core issues. Moses is aware that Herzog sees himself as a viable candidate to become the next prime minister and therefore, the opposition leader is genuinely interested in striking a deal with the chareidim.
What will make a difference is Bayit Yehudi’s reaction as diplomatic talks between Israel and the PA move forward.
Regarding the upcoming shlichus of the admorim to the United States, Moses states “It’s no wonder they are traveling abroad to influence others since sadly, at home no one is willing to listen to what we have to say. Perhaps after the impact of this historic trip is felt, the influence from there will be felt here.”
(YWN)
MK (Yahadut Hatorah) Rav Moshe Gafne met with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu on Monday evening 20 Teves 5774, ahead of the Shaked Committee finalizing the new chareidi draft law.
It is reported that Gafne did not hide his concerns regarding the current coalition, its policies and the draft law something seems to be missing. He called on the prime minister to soften the severity of the law, which is met with widespread chareidi objections are present.
Persons close to Gafne add that in recent days he stated that if the
prime minister truly wanted to rid himself of Yesh Atid as the media
leaks indicate he does, Mr. Netanyahu has had ample opportunity to do so
of late as Lapid and his party continue to defy the prime minister and
his Likud party.
Nevertheless Mr. Netanyahu continues with the current coalition, which Gafne feels suits him fine, telling Mr. Netanyahu that he does not believe he wants to bring the chareidim into the coalition.
(YWN)
Each bayit yehudi Member deserves plenty of criticism for abstaining and not voting against the mishkav zachar bill (Kal vechomer Bennett, and Shaked)
However the fact that the haradiem did nothing helped make this situation possible.
If all Orthodox Jews (Edah, Degel, Aguda, Hesder, Shas, etc.) would have protested this saying unequivocally this is completely against the essence of Yiddishkeit it would have forced Bennet to veto this evil bill
The bill to grant tax incentives to to’eva "couples", sponsored by Yesh Atid, passed its preliminary reading in Knesset on Wednesday 22 Teves as expected. The bill is sponsored by MK Dr. Adi Koll and it was passed after it was reworded to obtain Bayit Yehudi’s support, critical towards passing the bill. The bill passed in a 40-22 vote.
In response, MK (Yahadut Hatorah) Meir Porush accuses Bayit Yehudi of being מכשיר את השרץ, legitimizing that which is unholy.
Bayit Yehudi agreed to support the bill after all reference to to’eva couples was removed. In its place, the bill stipulates the finance minister can decide to apply the law as he sees fit. There is no doubt that Yesh Atid leader Finance Minister Yair Lapid will apply it to to’eva couples, the original intention of the bill.
It was a stormy Knesset session as Lapid told chareidim “we live in a society and of entitlement and responsibility and those who contribute to society will receive”.
For Porush and other chareidi lawmakers, their anger is directed at the dati leumi party, for its decision to support the bill was instrumental. or is it because of the draft?
(YWN)
If Agudah was so against this bill how come most charadim didn't even knew about this bill, which fight was going on for the past month?
How come Agudah is only protesting the draft and not something that is infinitely worse?
How come the mosetzes is only protesting the draft?
How could Aguda even think of having "increased cooperation" with Labor which didn't vote for this mishkav zachar bill because they weren't 100% that it will mention mishkav zachar by name?
How come Degel Hatorah met with Netanyahu and didn't speak out on Mishkav Zachar?
Speaking with Kikar Shabbos, Yahadut Hatorah MK Rabbi Menachem Eliezer Moses explains that he feels the planned shlichus of the admorim to the USA is already having an impact on state officials. Moses is confident they are already feeling the pressure since they understand the significance of the act.
Moses earlier in the week met with MK (Labor) Yitzchak Herzog, explaining he met with the opposition leader in his capacity as leader of Yahadut Hatorah in Knesset. “We are disappointment with Netanyahu’s performance and it appears he has forgotten we were once longtime partners” Moses adds.
Moses feels the future will bring increased cooperation between his party and Labor for they agree on core issues. Moses is aware that Herzog sees himself as a viable candidate to become the next prime minister and therefore, the opposition leader is genuinely interested in striking a deal with the chareidim.
with Kikar Shabbos, Yahadut Hatorah MK Rabbi Menachem Eliezer Moses
explains that he feels the planned shlichus of the admorim to the USA is
already having an impact on state officials. Moses is confident they
are already feeling the pressure since they understand the significance
of the act.
Moses earlier in the week met with MK (Labor) Yitzchak Herzog, explaining he met with the opposition leader in his capacity as leader of Yahadut Hatorah in Knesset. “We are disappointment with Netanyahu’s performance and it appears he has forgotten we were once longtime partners” Moses adds.
Moses feels the future will bring increased cooperation between his party and Labor for they agree on core issues. Moses is aware that Herzog sees himself as a viable candidate to become the next prime minister and therefore, the opposition leader is genuinely interested in striking a deal with the chareidim.
When asked how Yahadut Hatorah can partner with the left-wing party,
Moses explained there is much in common and it could work quite nicely.
When asked about Labor’s support of talks with the PA (Palestinian
Authority), the party’s left-wing political allegiance, Moses responded
“we will cross that bridge when we come to it,” clearly signaling that
for him this is not a core issue and either is apparently mishkav zachar.Moses earlier in the week met with MK (Labor) Yitzchak Herzog, explaining he met with the opposition leader in his capacity as leader of Yahadut Hatorah in Knesset. “We are disappointment with Netanyahu’s performance and it appears he has forgotten we were once longtime partners” Moses adds.
Moses feels the future will bring increased cooperation between his party and Labor for they agree on core issues. Moses is aware that Herzog sees himself as a viable candidate to become the next prime minister and therefore, the opposition leader is genuinely interested in striking a deal with the chareidim.
What will make a difference is Bayit Yehudi’s reaction as diplomatic talks between Israel and the PA move forward.
Regarding the upcoming shlichus of the admorim to the United States, Moses states “It’s no wonder they are traveling abroad to influence others since sadly, at home no one is willing to listen to what we have to say. Perhaps after the impact of this historic trip is felt, the influence from there will be felt here.”
(YWN)
MK (Yahadut Hatorah) Rav Moshe Gafne met with Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu on Monday evening 20 Teves 5774, ahead of the Shaked Committee finalizing the new chareidi draft law.
It is reported that Gafne did not hide his concerns regarding the current coalition, its policies and the draft law something seems to be missing. He called on the prime minister to soften the severity of the law, which is met with widespread chareidi objections are present.
Nevertheless Mr. Netanyahu continues with the current coalition, which Gafne feels suits him fine, telling Mr. Netanyahu that he does not believe he wants to bring the chareidim into the coalition.
(YWN)
Each bayit yehudi Member deserves plenty of criticism for abstaining and not voting against the mishkav zachar bill (Kal vechomer Bennett, and Shaked)
However the fact that the haradiem did nothing helped make this situation possible.
If all Orthodox Jews (Edah, Degel, Aguda, Hesder, Shas, etc.) would have protested this saying unequivocally this is completely against the essence of Yiddishkeit it would have forced Bennet to veto this evil bill
The
bill to grant tax incentives to to’eva couples, sponsored by Yesh Atid,
passed its preliminary reading in Knesset on Wednesday 22 Teves as
expected. The bill is sponsored by MK Dr. Adi Koll and it was passed
after it was reworded to obtain Bayit Yehudi’s support, critical towards
passing the bill. The bill passed in a 40-22 vote.
In response, MK (Yahadut Hatorah) Meir Porush accuses Bayit Yehudi of being מכשיר את השרץ, legitimizing that which is unholy.
Bayit Yehudi agreed to support the bill after all reference to to’eva couples was removed. In its place, the bill stipulates the finance minister can decide to apply the law as he sees fit. There is no doubt that Yesh Atid leader Finance Minister Yair Lapid will apply it to to’eva couples, the original intention of the bill.
Porush points a finger of blame at the dati leumi party “which after
65 years lends a hand to passing many laws that are destroying
Yiddishkheit”.
It was a stormy Knesset session as Lapid told chareidim “we live in a society and of entitlement and responsibility and those who contribute to society will receive”.
For Porush and other chareidi lawmakers, their anger is directed at the dati leumi party, for its decision to support the bill was instrumental.
In response, MK (Yahadut Hatorah) Meir Porush accuses Bayit Yehudi of being מכשיר את השרץ, legitimizing that which is unholy.
Bayit Yehudi agreed to support the bill after all reference to to’eva couples was removed. In its place, the bill stipulates the finance minister can decide to apply the law as he sees fit. There is no doubt that Yesh Atid leader Finance Minister Yair Lapid will apply it to to’eva couples, the original intention of the bill.
It was a stormy Knesset session as Lapid told chareidim “we live in a society and of entitlement and responsibility and those who contribute to society will receive”.
For Porush and other chareidi lawmakers, their anger is directed at the dati leumi party, for its decision to support the bill was instrumental.
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