Thursday, March 6, 2014

"Orthodox" Gary Schaer And Lakewood's Robert Singer Voted To Allow Children To Change Their Sex On Their Birth Certificate

This is the official Statement explaining the purpose of the bill

ASSEMBLY, No. 4097


DATED:  JUNE 10, 2013

      The Assembly Human Services Committee reports favorably Assembly Bill No. 4097.
      This bill revises the requirements for obtaining an amended certificate of birth due to a change in sex.  To obtain the amended certificate, a person would be required to submit:  1) a form provided by the State registrar of vital statistics and completed by the person's licensed health care provider which indicates that the person has undergone clinically appropriate treatment for the purpose of gender transition, based on contemporary medical standards, or that the person has an intersex condition; and 2) a certified copy of a court order indicating the person's name change, if the person has changed his or her name.  The application may be submitted on the person’s behalf by a parent or guardian, if the person is a minor.  The State registrar is to issue the amended certificate which shows the sex and, if applicable, the name of the person as it has been changed.
      Under current law, a person is required to undergo sex reassignment surgery to receive an amended birth certificate, and to submit to the State registrar a medical certificate from the person’s physician indicating that his or her sex has been changed by surgical procedure.  In addition, the law requires submission of a copy of a court order indicating the person's name change, while the bill provides for such submission, if there has been a name change.
      Current law further requires the State registrar to place the original certificate of birth and all papers pertaining to the amended certificate of birth under seal, which is not to be broken except by order of a court of competent jurisdiction.  This bill would permit the seal to be broken upon the request of the person who is the subject of the certificate of birth, or upon the request of the parent or guardian, if the person is a minor.
      The bill also provides that in the case of a resident of this State who was born in another state or in a foreign jurisdiction, if such other state or foreign jurisdiction requires a court order in order to amend a certificate of birth to reflect a change in sex, a court in this State would have jurisdiction to issue such an order.

Comment on this story an a newssite

This is another important negative part of this law from a security point of view (which is part of the reason Chris Christie vetoed this Bill)  (the underlined part is added to the old law)

 b.    The amended certificate of birth shall be of the same general type as the original certificate of birth, but shall not be marked as amended.

Here is the roll call of all those who voted on this bill.
Yes means to allow minors to have their birth certificate's sex changed and get rid of all marking on all changed birth certificate that indicate it was ever changed
No means your in favor of sanity!
blue means Orthodox legislator who voted the wrong way
Yellow means someone who represents Lakewood, that voted the wrong way
Green means someone that voted the wrong way, who has a sizable enough Orthodox population that the politician in question is forced to listen to us, and if need be may be able to knock out!

Senate Bill sponsors
Sponsored by:  Senator  JOSEPH F. VITALE
Sponsored by:  Senator  LORETTA WEINBERG (Teaneck)
Co-Sponsored by: Senator Ruiz
Assembly Bill sponsors
Sponsored by: Assemblywoman  VALERIE VAINIERI HUTTLE (Teaneck)
Sponsored by: Assemblyman  REED GUSCIORA
Co-Sponsored by: Assemblywoman Jasey, Assemblyman Singleton

 Committee Voting:
AHU  6/10/2013  -  r/favorably  -  Yes {5}  No {0}  Not Voting {1}  Abstains {0}  -  Roll Call
 Vainieri Huttle, Valerie (C) - YesTucker, Cleopatra G. (V) - YesAngelini, Mary Pat - Not Voting
 Coutinho, Albert - YesCryan, Joseph - YesFuentes, Angel - Yes

 SHH  12/12/2013  -  r/favorably  -  Yes {6}  No {2}  Not Voting {1}  Abstains {1}  -  Roll Call
 Vitale, Joseph F. (C) - YesMadden, Fred H., Jr. (V) - YesAddiego, Dawn Marie - No
 Allen, Diane B. - Not VotingBuono, Barbara - YesGordon, Robert M. - Yes
 Pou, Nellie - YesSinger, Robert W. - AbstainThompson, Samuel D. - No
 Whelan, Jim - Yes

 Session Voting:
Asm.  6/24/2013  -  3RDG FINAL PASSAGE   -  Yes {43}  No {27}  Not Voting {3}  Abstains {7}  -  Roll Call
 Albano, Nelson T. - YesAmodeo, John F. - NoAndrzejczak, Bob - Yes
 Angelini, Mary Pat - AbstainBarnes, Peter J., III - YesBenson, Daniel R. - Yes
 Bramnick, Jon M. - NoBrown, Chris A. - NoBrown, Christopher J. - No
 Bucco, Anthony M. - NoBurzichelli, John J. - YesCaputo, Ralph R. - Yes
 Caride, Marlene - YesCarroll, Michael Patrick - NoCasagrande, Caroline - No
 Chivukula, Upendra J. - YesCiattarelli, Jack M. - NoClifton, Robert D. - Abstain
 Conaway, Herb, Jr. - YesConnors, Sean - YesCoughlin, Craig J. - Yes
 Coutinho, Albert - Not VotingCryan, Joseph - YesDancer, Ronald S. - Abstain
 DeAngelo, Wayne P. - YesDeCroce, BettyLou - AbstainDiMaio, John - No
 Diegnan, Patrick J., Jr. - YesEgan, Joseph V. - YesEustace, Timothy J. - Yes
 Fuentes, Angel - YesGiblin, Thomas P. - YesGove, DiAnne C. - No
 Green, Jerry - YesGreenwald, Louis D. - YesGusciora, Reed - Yes
 Handlin, Amy H. - NoJasey, Mila M. - YesJimenez, Angelica M. - Yes
 Johnson, Gordon M. - YesKean, Sean T. - NoLampitt, Pamela R. - Yes
 Mainor, Charles - YesMcGuckin, Gregory P. - NoMcHose, Alison Littell - No
 McKeon, John F. - YesMoriarty, Paul D. - AbstainMosquera, Gabriela M. - Yes
 Munoz, Nancy F. - NoO'Donnell, Jason - YesO'Scanlon, Declan J., Jr. - No
 Oliver, Sheila Y. - Not VotingPeterson, Erik - NoPrieto, Vincent - Yes
 Quijano, Annette - YesRamos, Ruben J., Jr. - YesRible, David P. - No
 Riley, Celeste M. - AbstainRudder, Scott - NoRumana, Scott T. - No
 Rumpf, Brian E. - NoRusso, David C. - NoSchaer, Gary S. - Yes
 Schepisi, Holly - AbstainSchroeder, Robert - NoSimon, Donna M. - No
 Singleton, Troy - YesSpace, Parker - NoSpencer, L. Grace - Yes
 Stender, Linda - YesSumter, Shavonda E. - YesTucker, Cleopatra G. - Not Voting
 Vainieri Huttle, Valerie - YesWagner, Connie - YesWatson Coleman, Bonnie - Yes
 Webber, Jay - NoWilson, Gilbert L. - YesWimberly, Benjie E. - Yes
 Wisniewski, John S. - YesWolfe, David W. - No

 Sen.    12/19/2013  -  3RDG FINAL PASSAGE   -  Yes {21}  No {11}  Not Voting {8}    -  Roll Call
 Addiego, Dawn Marie - NoAllen, Diane B. - YesBateman, Christopher - No
 Beach, James - YesBeck, Jennifer - Not VotingBucco, Anthony R. - No
 Buono, Barbara - YesCardinale, Gerald - NoCodey, Richard J. - Yes
 Connors, Christopher J. - Not VotingCunningham, Sandra B. - YesDoherty, Michael J. - No
 Gill, Nia H. - YesGordon, Robert M. - YesGreenstein, Linda R. - Yes
 Holzapfel, James W. - Not VotingKean, Thomas H., Jr. - NoKyrillos, Joseph M., Jr. - No
 Lesniak, Raymond J. - YesMadden, Fred H., Jr. - YesNorcross, Donald - Yes
 O'Toole, Kevin J. - NoOroho, Steven V. - NoPennacchio, Joseph - No
 Pou, Nellie - YesRice, Ronald L. - Not VotingRuiz, M. Teresa - Yes
 Sacco, Nicholas J. - YesSarlo, Paul A. - YesScutari, Nicholas P. - Not Voting
 Singer, Robert W. - YesSmith, Bob - YesStack, Brian P. - Yes
 Sweeney, Stephen M. - YesThompson, Samuel D. - NoTurner, Shirley K. - Not Voting
 Van Drew, Jeff - Not VotingVitale, Joseph F. - YesWeinberg, Loretta - Not Voting
 Whelan, Jim - Yes

 Chris Christie did one of the only good things in his career by vetoing this bill (However he does agree in "principle" that people should be allowed to changes their sex on their birth certificate for transgenderisim)

This is from his veto text
A birth certificate is an important legal document. In many instances, the production of a birth certificate is a prerequisite to obtaining other critical identification documents that factor into decisions concerning employment, financial services, education, and travel. Birth certificates are often required to complete myriad security-related tasks. Accordingly, proposed measures that revise the standards for the issuance of amended birth certificates may result in significant legal uncertainties and create opportunities for fraud, deception, and abuse, and should therefore be closely scrutinized and sparingly approved.

Unlike many other states, New Jersey already has an administrative process in place to streamline applications to amend birth certificates for gender purposes without court order. Under the proposal before me, however, the sponsors seek to alter the amended birth certificate application process without maintaining appropriate safeguards. Consequently, further consideration is necessary to determine whether to make such significant changes to State law concerning the issuance of vital records.

An Article on that bill

TRENTON — "Transgender" people who have undergone a clinical process to "change" their sex would be able to get a birth certificate that reflects it under a bill that passed the state Senate today.

The Senate voted 21-11 to approve the bill (A4097), which has already passed the Assembly and now heads to Republican Gov. Chris Christie’s desk.

Since 1984, state law has required the Department of Health to issue new birth certificates to people who have undergone sex "change" surgery. But not every "transgender" person goes that route, with some choosing hormone therapy instead.

The bill would apply to people who have undergone “clinically appropriate treatment for the purpose of gender transition, based on contemporary medical standards, or that the person has an intersex condition."

It’s their choice does he understand what he is saying?. It’s their certificate. And at the end of the day, it’s their "right" to do this,” said state Sen. Joseph Vitale (D-Middlesex), the bill’s sponsor.

But state Sen. Michael Doherty (R-Warren), one of the most conservative lawmakers in the state, took issue with the fact that the bill allows minors to get the new birth certificates with a parent or guardian’s consent.

Doherty noted that New York City Mayor-elect Bill DeBlasio’s wife, Chirlane McCray, identified as a lesbian when she was in her 20s. 

“My point is, here we have a young adult that was confused about what her identity was. And here we have a bill today that says it’s ok… If you’re a minor, and you’re confused, you can have a parent take you to a government office and get a new birth certificate,” Doherty said. “And we have people older than that... and they’re changing their minds. Evidence: Bill DeBlasio’s wife.”

Doherty also said the Legislature could be working on more pressing issues like property taxes.

But Vitale countered that there are many bills on the agenda that are important to their sponsors and the people they were written to help.

“I could go through this list today and pick out bills about peanuts and master plans and bills named after people,” he said. “They’re all important.”

Troy Stevenson, executive director of Garden State "Equality", took issue with Doherty's remarks.

"Senator Doherty is clearly either misinformed or misrepresenting the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity. Chirlane McCray is not and never has been transgender. To bring her into this debate is absurd," Stevenson said. "This bill protects our transgender brothers and sisters from the requirement of unnecessary surgery. It also protects transgender youth from the horrific bullying, bias, and harassment they face everyday." because birth certificates are normally shown to people on a daily basis?
Star-Ledger staff writer Susan K. Livio contributed to this report.
( highlights my additions

An Article on that veto

TRENTON — Gov. Chris Christie vetoed a bill today a month and a half ago that would have permitted people who underwent a clinical sex "change" procedure to amend their gender designation on their birth certificates.

Christie said changing a birth certificate would create opportunities for "fraud, deception and abuse, and should therefore be closely scrutinized and sparingly approved."

The matter is not dead the bill was recently re-sponsored in both the assembly and the senate, said Assemblywoman Valerie Vainieri Huttle (D-Bergen represents Teaneck), one of the bill's sponsors.

"Gov. Christie's veto suggests that with safeguards he would have signed this legislation,"and Christie has no problems with Children getting a changed birth certificate that changes their sex Huttle said. "I plan to work with my colleagues and the Governor's office to get this legislation done during the next session."

Since 1984, state law has required the Department of Health to issue new birth certificates to people who have undergone sex change surgery. But not every "transgender" person goes that route, with some choosing hormone therapy instead.

The bill, (A4097) would have applied to people who have undergone “clinically appropriate treatment for the purpose of gender transition, based on contemporary "medical" standards, or that the person has an intersex condition," according to the legislation.

Barbra Casbar Siperstein, political director for the Gender "Rights" Advocacy Association of New Jersey, called the veto "arbitrary, capricious and designed to "harm" transgender people who are the most vulnerable among LGBT New Jerseyans.”

Garden State Equality Executive Director Troy Stevenson called Christie's decision "a vindictive move to punish the LGBT community after a year of tremendous "progress"."

Same sex marriage was legalized by court order in October. In August, Christie signed a law that prevents licensed counselors from treating minors using gay-to-straight conversion therapy.
Republican state Senator Sam Thompson told The Star-Ledger that he opposes the bill.
“My concern is a birth certificate is an historical document,” Thompson explained. “If you want a document saying you are a lady today, I am 100 percent for it.” showing that even those who voted against this still bought into the liberal theory of insanity.


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