Showing posts with label Avi Schnall. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Avi Schnall. Show all posts

Monday, January 5, 2015

Why's Aguda Posing For A Picture With A Senator Who Voted For Assisted Suicide



This picture was included in agudah's weekly press release from when NJ's assisted suicide bill passed the senate committee.



 Bob Gordon Voted for the bill in committee Why would agudah pose for a picture with him in a press release on assisted suicide when he voted for the assisted suicide?
Furthermore this wasn't even their top alert but 3rd?????

This is agudahs press release (highlighted portions are additions)


As some members of the New Jersey legislature work to make the Garden State the sixth state to allow physician-assisted suicide for terminally-ill patients, Agudath Israel of America is at the "forefront" of "aggressively" fighting that devastating move. when money was at stake they sent bus loads of people down to Trenton, how many did they send for this?



The "Aid in Dying for the Terminally Ill Act" passed the State Assembly with 41 votes - the minimum needed agudah did not lobby this, they were to busy with the convention - last month, and is now up for a full vote on the Senate floor. In the event that it passes the Senate, the decision would fall on Governor Chris Christie whether to sign or veto the bill.



On Monday, Rabbi Avi Schnall, New Jersey Director of Agudath Israel of America as did the OU who in my personal opinion gave a stronger speech (should have all speeches up soon) and 2 other Orthodox Jews, expressed Torah Jewry's vehement opposition to the proposed law before the Senate Health Committee members. Rabbi Schnall told the Committee of Agudath Israel's long history of representing Torah observant Jews in America - and why this battle is particularly important: "Informed by classical Jewish tradition which teaches that all human life is sacred, and possessed of the firm view that laws that undermine the sanctity of human life send a message that is profoundly dangerous for all of society, Agudath Israel's interest in the issue of legalizing suicide is especially keen." does agudah feel the need to justify their involvement when dealing with other issues 



In addition to articulating the religious and moral opposition to physician-assisted suicide, Agudath Israel's testimony laid out a clear legal case for the government to ban the practice, the legal case? the law already bans it and noted that even some who support the bill from the medical community oppose the idea of allowing physicians to participate in a patient's decision to end his or her life. if aguda was the only ones speaking that would make sense but many in medical community were there opposing the bill, in fact of all the people who testified 28 (including many in the medical field) spoke against the bill, and only 3 for it.



Agudath Israel is also engaged in an aggressive lobbying campaign among individual state legislators to encourage them to vote against the law. We urge the public to contact their local legislators as well and encourage them to vote against the bill. why don't they give people the phone numbers (click here to find your district and call your senator) also mention (and mean) that your voted depend on it or they will not care about your opinion because the left is also lobbying and the senators know they mean business 



Rabbi Schnall says that, per the directive of the organization's Moetzes Gedolei HaTorah of America (Council of Torah Sages), the law presents a threat beyond its immediate repercussions. "If it becomes law, the assisted suicide bill can directly imperil even Orthodox Jews who would not willingly choose death, Heaven forbid," says Rabbi Schnall. "There is a very real concern of a slippery slope, where doctors, hospitals and insurers can pressure patients diagnosed with a terminal illness, people suffering from mental illness, and individuals with disabilities to make the wrong choice."
(Agudas press release) highlights our additions

It seems to us that their main objective is to tout agudah not fight the bill.

Sunday, November 16, 2014

Why The Jewish Community Is Responsible For The Assisted Suicide Bill Passing The NJ Assembly

אֵיכָה הָיְתָה לְזוֹנָה קִרְיָה נֶאֱמָנָה מְלֵאֲתִי מִשְׁפָּט צֶדֶק יָלִין בָּהּ וְעַתָּה מְרַצְּחִים
How has she become a harlot, a faithful city; full of justice, in which righteousness would lodge, but now murderers. (Yishaya 1-21)
Letter from Rav Moshe Soloveichik on Massachusetts vote for assisted "suicide" in 2012

As we previously reported the Assisted Suicide bill passed the Assembly by only 1 vote.  Unfortunately only 4 people representing significantly Jewish areas voted against that bill (both assembly-members from Lakewood, the Yamuka wearing Gary Schaer, and Nancy Pinkin from Edison/Highland Park) there was an additional member (Annette Quijano) who didn't vote (which legally has the same as value as voting no).  ALL THE OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OF JEWISH AREAS VOTED FOR THE MURDER BILL. 

First of all If the United Orthodox Jewish Community would have proven record of voting based upon the Torah many of these elected officials would not even have been in the assembly.  Furthermore if politicians knew that we would have voted against them because of this bill it would have been a risky move that would have prevented all but the strongest ideologues from voting for this bill.  Furthermore there was no organizational (Agudah/OU) effort in fighting this bill, NOT A JEWISH MEDIA OUTLET PUBLICIZED THE INFORMATION THAT THERE WOULD BE A VOTE ON THURSDAY URGING PEOPLE TO CALL THERE LEGISLATORS.  In fact the Agudah lobbyist Avi Schnall (who opened up the Agudah convention a few hours after the bill passed) ran a particularly week attempt to fight this even by agudah poor historical standards (read the link) Clearly more concerned with the Agudah Convention then shfichas damim.  
The vote took place at around 3:00 PM
This tweet took place at 2:46 PM

There was no move by the Jewish establishment to contact even influential members of the community (rabbis/A$kanim) to contact their legislators telling them to vote against the bill.  It's clear that if Rabbi Meir Stern Rosh Yeshiva of Yeshiva Gedola of Passaic would have called Marlene Caride and strongly told her to vote against this bill, this bill would have had a more than 75% chance of her changing her vote and thus failing. (remember this bill passed by 1 vote)

To also give credit where credit is due (despite his other some of his other flaws)
“In terms of my personally held religious beliefs, there are issues of assisted "suicide", which is contrary to the religious principles that I adhere to,” said Assemblyman Gary S. Schaer, D-Passaic, who is Jewish. “I’m supportive of hospice, I’m supportive of affording people pain medication.  “To actually promote and assist as a state in suicide is, again, antithetical to my core belief system.”


Here's the vote count from the Assisted Suicide bill.  

yellow means someone that voted the wrong way, who has a sizable enough Orthodox population that the politician in question is forced to listen to us, and if need be, we may be able to knock out depending on the district!
Green means that we have a decent size presence there that we can be influential at the edges
blue means didn't vote for the bill and has at least a decent size Orthodox (however many communities like Deal and Morristown are not the real cause of a proper vote rather the non Jewish population in this areas are)

here were the sponsors of the bill
Burzichelli, John J. as Primary Sponsor
Eustace, Timothy J. as Primary Sponsor 
(represents Bergenfield, Fair Lawn, Paramus)
Cryan, Joseph as Co-Sponsor (represents Elizabeth)

McKeon, John F. as Co-Sponsor (represents Livingston, Maplewood, West Orange)
Jasey, Mila M. as Co-Sponsor (represents Livingston, Maplewood, West Orange)

Wilson, Gilbert L. as Co-Sponsor

Session Voting:
Asm.  11/13/2014  -  3RDG FINAL PASSAGE   -  Yes {41}  No {31}  Not Voting {8}  Abstains {0}  -  Roll Call

Andrzejczak, Bob - YesAngelini, Mary Pat - Not VotingAuth, Robert - No
Benson, Daniel R. - YesBramnick, Jon M. - NoBrown, Chris A. - No
Brown, Christopher J. - NoBucco, Anthony M. - NoBurzichelli, John J. - Yes
Caputo, Ralph R. - Not VotingCaride, Marlene - YesCarroll, Michael Patrick - No
Casagrande, Caroline - NoCiattarelli, Jack M. - YesClifton, Robert D. - No
Conaway, Herb, Jr. - Not VotingCoughlin, Craig J. - NoCryan, Joseph - Yes
Dancer, Ronald S. - NoDanielsen, Joe - YesDeAngelo, Wayne P. - Yes
DeCroce, BettyLou - NoDiMaio, John - NoDiegnan, Patrick J., Jr. - Yes
Egan, Joseph V. - NoEustace, Timothy J. - YesFiocchi, Samuel L. - No
Fuentes, Angel - YesGarcia, Carmelo G. - YesGiblin, Thomas P. - No
Gove, DiAnne C. - NoGreen, Jerry - YesGreenwald, Louis D. - Yes
Gusciora, Reed - YesHandlin, Amy H. - NoJasey, Mila M. - Yes
Jimenez, Angelica M. - YesJohnson, Gordon M. - YesKean, Sean T. - No
Lagana, Joseph A. - YesLampitt, Pamela R. - YesMainor, Charles - Yes
Mazzeo, Vincent - YesMcGuckin, Gregory P. - NoMcHose, Alison Littell - Not Voting
McKeon, John F. - YesMoriarty, Paul D. - YesMosquera, Gabriela M. - Yes
Mukherji, Raj - YesMunoz, Nancy F. - NoO'Donnell, Jason - Yes
O'Scanlon, Declan J., Jr. - YesOliver, Sheila Y. - NoPeterson, Erik - No
Pinkin, Nancy J. - NoPintor Marin, Eliana - YesPrieto, Vincent - Yes
Quijano, Annette - Not VotingRible, David P. - NoRiley, Celeste M. - Yes
Rodriguez-Gregg, Maria - YesRumana, Scott T. - NoRumpf, Brian E. - Not Voting
Russo, David C. - NoSchaer, Gary S. - NoSchepisi, Holly - Yes
Simon, Donna M. - NoSingleton, Troy - YesSpace, Parker - No
Spencer, L. Grace - YesStender, Linda - YesSumter, Shavonda E. - Yes
Tucker, Cleopatra G. - Not VotingVainieri Huttle, Valerie - YesWatson Coleman, Bonnie - Not Voting
Webber, Jay - NoWilson, Gilbert L. - YesWimberly, Benjie E. - Yes
Wisniewski, John S. - YesWolfe, David W. - No



Look and see how we failed miserably (remember only 1 more vote not voting yes would have stopped this bill)

Cherry Hill
both assembly members voted the wrong way

Deal
One assembly member voted the right way and the other didn't vote

Highland Park, Edison
One assembly member voted the right way and the other voted the wrong way

Elizabeth
One assembly member voted the wrong way and the other didn't vote

Morristown
both assembly members voted the right way

Livingston, Maplewood, West Orange
both assembly members voted the wrong way

Lakewood
both assembly members voted the right way

Union City
both assembly members voted the wrong way

Clifton
both assembly members voted the right way

Passaic
One assembly member voted the right way and the other voted the wrong way

Englewood, Teaneck, Tenafly
both assembly members voted the wrong way

Bergenfield, Fair Lawn, Paramus
both assembly members voted the wrong way