Christine Quinn "Thinks" That No Religious Person Should Be Elected To Any Office In NYC

4:15 p.m. Dec. 10, 2013

On Tuesday afternoon, outgoing City Council speaker Christine Quinn weighed in for the first time on the race to succeed her, saying she couldn't support a speaker candidate who is not "pro-choice" and in favor of same-sex "marriage".

"I don't think that anyone should be elected to citywide office or statewide office, really any office quite frankly in the City of New York, who isn't pro-LGBT or pro-choice," said Quinn, the Council's first openly gay speaker, in response to a question from Capital during an unrelated press conference at City Hall.

Brooklyn councilman Jumaane Williams, who recently joined the seven-candidate race to replace Quinn, has been criticized by some of his colleagues for his "opposition" to abortion and gay "marriage" even though he voted for every single gay "marriage" and abortion bill/resolution. In an interview with Capital last week, Williams described a "nuanced" view on both issues, saying his opinions were informed by personal experience.

Quinn didn't mention Williams by name in her comments on Tuesday, but made clear his views would be disqualifying for her support.

"Elected offices everywhere in this country but in this city, in New York, have tremendous power to move forward issues of "equality", to move forward issues of recognizing "family", to "protect" women, to protect a women's "right" to make their own decisions over their "bodies"," said Quinn.

"These are really important issues," she continued. "They're issues in some areas where we're making progress, in some areas where we are terribly on the defensive. They're issues that have enormous impact on people's lives and they're ones that I feel strongly about and (would) really push candidates for elected office that embrace those issues and those values."

In her eight years as speaker, Quinn helped pass legislation to expand women's abortion " rights", and she advocated for same-sex "marriage" in Albany.

"It's certainly very important to me as speaker," she said today.

In September, Quinn lost her bid to become the city's first openly gay mayor, and has questioned whether her campaign adequately embraced the groundbreaking nature of her candidacy.

She has been reticent to discuss the race to succeed her, which will be decided by a vote of the Council's 51 members on Jan. 8.

Quinn declined to comment on a set of proposed reforms that would drastically alter the power of the speaker and restrict some of the tactics that Quinn used to compel members during her tenure.
(capitalnewyork) highlights ours

 I wonder how she feels the same way about David Greenfield


 Jumaane Williams position on same gender "marriage" (he voted for it)

Council speaker candidate Jumaane Williams opened up Thursday about his personal opposition to same-sex "marriage" and abortion—positions that make him an outlier in the Democratic conference and which threaten his chances of getting the top job even though he voted for every bill.

In an interview with Capital, the 37-year-old Brooklyn Democrat, who co-founded the Council's Progressive Caucus, cited his church-going Caribbean roots and a traumatic personal experience involving a pregnancy in explaining his views.

He says he began to sympathize with fathers who have no input in abortions when a woman he was dating aborted their child without his blessing.

"There is a personal story and I understand 100 percent why male or fathers' voices are not heard," he said.

"There are stories of scars that come out of this. So my story is I was with a woman and believed that we had discussions about what would happen if pregnancy occurred," he said. "I saw the sonogram of my child. I remember the doctor saying that everything is going well. That's not something that goes away very easily."

He declined to divulge all the details of his story, including the woman's identity, the exact nature of their relationship and the timeframe.

Williams said she had an abortion during the first or second month of her pregnancy, and that he only learned of it afterward.

"That obviously is going to have an affect on what you believe and what you think and so after that and after having the pregnancy terminated there is no space I think for fathers to express that kind of pain," he said. "Women I think go through way much more, so I don't want to try to compare it, but whatever it is there's no space for it."

A particularly difficult moment, he recalled, was receiving a card that read "Fathers mourn the loss of fatherhood" from advocates pushing him to vote against a bill in 2011 to require "crisis pregnancy centers" to disclose whether they have licensed medical providers on site and whether the provide prenatal care, emergency contraception or abortions.

Williams and David Greenfield ended up voting for the pro abortion measure.

"It was just very painful. It's still painful now," he said, tearing up as he recalled learning about the abortion. "I have the clear image of the sonogram. I have the clear image of the doctor. I have the clear image of being in the room, hearing the doctor say, 'Everything's going along fine.'"

Williams, who is not married, said he would not want to overturn Roe v. Wade and believes women should have access to abortion, while still being personally "opposed" to it.

"I don't know that the two choices I have accurately describe what I believe," he said. "You have to check off a box of pro-choice and you have to check off a box of pro-life and I don't know that I'm comfortable in any of those boxes. I am personally not in favor of abortion."

Williams, who attends St. Paul Community Baptist Church in East New York, does not support same-sex "marriage", which at least one of his colleagues said is enough reason not to support him for speaker in the Jan. 8 vote among the Council's 51 members.

"I personally believe the definition of marriage is between a male and a female, but that has nothing to do with my belief that government has to recognize everybody's "relationships" as "equal"," Williams said.

He said he believes government should not sanction any marriages at all--only "civil unions", whether same-sex or between a man and woman.

He said religious institutions should be the only entitled to grant marriage.

"My first preference would've been that government has no role in marriage," he said. "You go to your religious institution to get a marriage license."

He did say he would not oppose and his voting record proves that measures his colleagues supported that promote same-sex "marriage". But that's something of a moot point, since New York State passed such a measure in 2011.
(capitalnewyork) highlights ours

Liberals don't even people who are against immorality in office even if they vote for immorality

The Blog's Back; Correction And Apology For Accidentally Misstating David Greenfield's Record

                 We'll like to apologize to all my readers for making a mistake in David Greenfield's record.  we accidentally stated that Greenfield applied for money for toevah institutions (including teaching in schools).  While the money was applied for, it wasn't applied for by him.  The way the process works is that any group can apply for a grant to any member of the city council.  We were misinformed by someone who should have (and most likely does) know how the process worked.  The person in question did not know that money was requested in Greenfield's name for teaching toevah but did tell us that money was requested for toevah groups.  Unlike all other things reported on by this blog we didn't properly understand by ourselves how the grant process works and relied on those who should have understood these matters. We therefore apologize to all those who relied on us for 100% accurate information.

                    We further apologize to David Greenfield YMS, for accidentally making him a bigger rasha than he really is.  While Greenfield did vote for a resolution labeling gay relationships "families" (which implies "marriage"), vote for a resolution pushing for late term abortions, vote for a resolution asking the government paying for abortions, argued in court for Nadler to represent Borough Park and Flatbush in congress, and goes against rabbaniem in supporting toevah candidates most notably Lew Fidler, and was one of Christine Quinn's biggest supporters, got a gay political clubs endorsement (without ever condemning it), he did not apply for funding for toevah organizations and for our misunderstanding of the application process we are now publicly apologizing to him.

Because of this unfortunate mistake We temporarily stopped the blog but now we are back.

Unfortunately most of Borough Park And Flatbush voted to elect this rasha, choosing to listen to "askoniem" instead of the Torah.  May all these askoniem (misyavniem) be thrown out together with the chamez this year

May we be remember that Am Yisroel should be a nation that hates toevah and do teshuva for reelecting this rasha gamur.

We finally call on David Greenfield to apologize for all his stated misdeeds plus the ones that we didn't state, and do everything in power to undo all the reshus that he helped pass.

We urge David Greenfield to sponsor a resolution calling on NY to ban same gender "marriage", to become a true Baal Teshuva.

Why It's Politically Smart To Vote For Erick Salgado!

Why It's Politically Smart To Vote For Erick Salgado
"Respected" members of our communities have impressed upon us the importance of maintaining a relationship with elected officials.  From the perspective of the administrator of a charity organization or its supporters, a stable relationship with the political establishment can be the key to successful advocacy.  However, from a community perspective, a philosophy of electing candidates based upon maintaining the relationships with our community spokesman is selling our community needs for pennies on the dollar.

The sad fact that most Jews don’t realize is that while a close personal relationship between askanim and politicians are often useful in securing “earmark” grants (otherwise known as “pork” to the secular world) for a few institutions.  On the most important issues of our time the rest of the community doesn’t benefit from the “close relationship” at all.  In fact, the continued support from askanim gives these politicians a sense of entitlement and being insulated and protected in their continued opposition to things that really would help yeshiva families, like enacting tax credits for tuition dollars (which do not violated the Blaine Amendment prohibiting government money to support private schools).

If we simply vote for a politician because he’s going to win anyway, then he’s not going to listen us, because he knows we’re going to vote for him anyway.  Why should a politician (who's main goal is to get reelected and/or advance to a higher office) make any sacrifices or risk crossing powerful anti-Torah social movements or unions, if he knows we’re going to vote for him simply because “he’s going to win anyway, or is slightly less evil than his opponent?”.

The lifeblood of a vibrant democracy depends upon the fact that the elected officials are held accountable to the public for re-election.  A politician who does not fear that he will be voted of office by his constituents will feel virtually no responsibility to respond to their needs and desires. 

Until now, our adversaries have demonstrated far more commitment to holding their elected officials accountable for supporting their ideologies that are counter to ours.  Our adversaries have demonstrated time and time again that they are willing to vote a politician out of office if he doesn’t support their agenda.  As a result, when an elected official for our communities is put under pressure to bow to their  anti-Torah measures, it takes virtually no time for him to weigh the threat of punishment from our adversaries against the promise of support that he’s received from our communities to choose the bad measure. 

The Jewish community has shown an ability to rise to the occasion to rally and prostest when things become urgent concerns (like Eretz Yisroel, or when Bloomberg wanted to get rid of the child care vouchers).  But the most important time to act should not be when the evil decrees are proposed.  We need to make our voices heard before then, at election time, to make sure our elected representatives know we mean business. A protest can only have value if the elected officials know that we are prepared to carry through on election day.

Now is the time to make our voices heard.  It’s not really Thompson, Quinn or DeBlasio that needs to hear our voices.  Whichever one who wins is not going to come back to ask our opinion once they’ve won office.  Mayor Bloomberg held a meeting with Rabbonim and askonim regarding metzizah b’peh when he was running for office.  But he had no problem reverseing course when he no longer needed something from us, he promised us the vouchers before his election and revoked them after he got our votes and was reelected.

The main act of speech is directed for the future candidates.  Elections happen every year.   Overreliance on the philosophy of choosing the “lesser of two evils” based on who is likely to win has led us to the situation where the lesser evil keeps getting more evil every election cycle.

Remember 20 years ago Christine Quinn wouldn't have even been able to run for mayor.

Every single one of the candidates except Erick Salgado has demonstrated that they lack the fortitude to stand against the political wind and defend our interests – our values, our pocketbooks and our safety – while the political trend is to do the opposite.

NY Times Says Orthodox And Hasidic Jews Recently Donated The Most Money To Quinn

Now if we would have donated this money to Erick Salgado there is a very good chance he would have been one of the leading contenders for the race this Tuesday!
(NYT)

All Major Mayor Candidates Are In Favor Giving Birth Control To Minors WITHOUT Their Parent's Consent

notice how Borough Park (where as of now doesn't give out condoms in Yeshivas) has one of (if not the) lowest pregnancy rates

Would you continue to distribute birth control pills and the morning-after pill in city schools? 


Bill de Blasio Public Advocate Democrat 
On the issue of whether to offer contraception in the schools, Mr. de Blasio was unequivocal, giving a simple “Yes,” without elaboration. He did not address the issue of parental consent, which is not now directly required.
 John C. Liu Comptroller Democrat 
Mr. Liu is supportive of the Bloomberg administration’s decision to distribute contraception in some city schools. Asked if he would continue it, he said “Yes,” without hedging or elaboration.
Christine C. Quinn City Council Speaker Democrat 
Ms. Quinn has made access to abortion and emergency contraception for women a signature issue, saying she wanted to make New York “as pro-choice and pro-women” as possible. In answer to this question, she said she would continue the current policy, but did not elaborate.
William C. Thompson Jr. Former Comptroller Democrat
In the debates over distributing condoms in the schools in the 1990s, Mr. Thompson, then a Brooklyn appointee to the Board of Education, was on the liberal side. He still says he has no objections to distributing birth control in schools.
Anthony D. Weiner Former Congressman Democrat
On birth control, Mr. Weiner proposed to tweak the current policy, perhaps influenced by his experience representing Queens. In the 1990s, parents of schoolchildren in that borough had been among the most vocal in the city in objecting to condom distribution, which is now the norm. He said that he would continue the policy, but that he would do a better job of informing parents that they could opt out.
John A. Catsimatidis C.E.O., Red Apple Group Republican 
Mr. Catsimatidis said he favored contraception in the schools, as long as it included a provision for “parental notification and consent.” He stayed away from the question of exactly what he meant by consent, a concept which different people interpret in different ways, and which the city and the courts have argued is fulfilled by the existing opt-out provision.
Joseph J. Lhota Former Chairman, M.T.A. Republican
Mr. Lhota said he believed parents should have a stronger hand in deciding whether their children were able to get birth control — like “any form of medication” — at school. He said birth control should not be distributed without parental “knowledge.” But he did not say he would ban it, and did not suggest changes to the policy that would ensure parents knew when their children were prescribed contraceptives.
(New York Times)

Sephardic Community Federation Supports the Worst Candidates in Including Quinn YMS

Who NOT to vote for

The SFC put out a letter that a bunch of anonymous "rabbis" agreed with supporting their Quinn endorsement.

A letter "signed" by "leading" "rabbis"

 who NOT to vote for

Joe Lhota: is by far the most liberal of all the Republicans and was originally for the Mayor's MBP regulation before he realized he needed our votes.
Christine Quinn: "married" to a woman, need I say more.
Charles Hynes: who persecutes the innocent and protects the guilty.
David Greenfield: who used to work for the Sephardic Community Federation (and supports Quinn),  voted for an abortion on demand bill, testified in court regarding redistricting in favor of Nadler representing Borough Park (will report on that soon), and endorsed Lew Fidler against many Rabbaniem
Theresa Scavo: who supports same gender "marriage" and has a lesbian daughter who's on the board of a gay legal organization!

Christine Quinn Says She's In Favor Of Suing Orthodox Run Stores For Asking For Basic Tzniyus!

Ezra And Quinn in Williamsburg (where the stores in question are)

Quinn said she supported the city Human Rights Commission’s opposition to signs requiring modest dress by women in shops in Orthodox neighborhoods because, in her view, it places a burden on women that does not apply to men. By contrast, she said, formal dress codes in restaurants are applied uniformly to both genders. “If you had a restaurant that required women to wear formal attire and men could wear shorts and T-shirts that would be a problem.”
(Jewish Week)

This is despite the fact Rasmussen poll shows 64% of American are in favor the right of businesses to set dress codes

Sign Quinn YMS "thinks" are "discriminatory"

In towns all over the country, business owners, town officials and even judges are setting new dress code rules. A Tennessee judge has set conservative guidelines for female lawyers in the courtroom; banks in a Florida town have banned hats, hoods and sunglasses in an attempt to thwart robberies, and a New Jersey shore town has banned overly saggy pants on its boardwalk. 
Most American Adults (64%) agree that business owners should be allowed to establish dress codes for people who enter their facility, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 23% disagree. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
(rasmussen poll)

Quinn Skips Jewish Fourm For Photo-Op At Tomchei Shabbos

Are we only worth a photo-op?

"Orthodox" Assemblyman Michael Simanowitz Endorsed "married" Lesbian Christine Quinn!

Michael Simanowitz "proudly" wearing his Yamulka, while endorsing a lesbian.

Assemblymembers Edward Braunstein, Michael DenDekker, Aravella Simotas, Catherine Nolan, Margeret Markey, David Weprin, Michael Simanowitz, Andrew Hevesi and Francisco Moya endorsed Christine Quinn.
(queenscourier-june 20th)

60% Of Black Babies Are Aborted/Year: Sandra Fluke Endorses Quinn To Increase That Number!

NYC already is the Abortion Capital of the World!  (60% of Black Babies Are aborted per year in NYC)

NEW YORK (WABC) -- Eye-opening statistics about the rate of abortions in New York City have been released by the Health Department. 

It raises questions about the effectiveness of current birth control education.

41% of all New York City pregnancies end in abortion.

The rate for minorities is even higher.

Both sides say the high abortion percentage is a crisis.

"If 41% of New York babies are aborted, with the percentage even higher in the Bronx and among our African-American babies in the world, it is downright chilling," New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan said.
Broken down by race for 2009:

Specifically
non-Hispanic Blacks have a 59.8% abortion rate.
Hispanics have a 41.3% abortion rate.

Asians have a 22.7% abortion rate.
And non-Hispanic Whites have a 20.4% abortion rate.

The fact that 41% of all pregnancies in New York City end in abortion is not a secret and it's not anything new.

In fact, things have been getting better over the past decade.

Back in 1998, 12 years ago, the number was actually 46%.

Planned Parenthood is also not happy about the numbers, but pushes education.
"We believe in comprehensive sex education, which by the way does include abstinence, but abstinence by itself has been proven to be ineffective,"

Archbishop Dolan reiterated the pro-abstinence, pro-life, anti-contraceptive position of the church.
"My word, what have we done the last 30 years. There's candy bowls on people's desks with condoms, they're dropping them from airplanes, yet nothing seems to improve, so they've been on the wrong track here," Archbishop Dolan said.
(ABC)

"Orthodox" Assemblyman Phillip Goldfeder Takes Lesbian Quinn to ?Yeshiva? "Darchei Torah"

The tweet with the photo was retweeted by former City Council candidate Pesach Osina, and a gay blog.  Phillip Goldfeder has a record of ignoring the Torah when he recently voted on a abortion on demand bill.

The gay blog retweeted this in order to "show" that Orthodox Jews support toevah.

 

If Christine Quinn and her surrogates are already promoting this in order to push the toevah agenda what would they do if CV she is elected.

David Greenfield responded to her tweet with this statement

what was David Greenfield's involvement with this chilul Hashem

Christine Quinn Sends Pro Gay "Rights" Literature Into Borough Park

 

A few questions to ponder
1. If she's already promoting homosexuality in BP before she's elected what will she do if CV she is actually elected?
2. If these pro toevanicks (gay activists) are so dedicated to be out on such a hot day doesn't that show us how dangerous they are?
3. how come Yosef Rapaport doesn't understand questions 1 and 2?
4. would Yosef Rapaport have a problem with her doing this if Quinn "only" did this in non Jewish areas (MZ is also assur for a Ben-Noach)?

links to the tweets

OU Stamps Hashgacha On Quinn (The Hater Of Torah) Greenfield's The Mashgiach

Jeff Leb, NY Director of Political Affairs for the OU; Maury Litwack, OU Director of State Political Affairs and Outreach; City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, City Councilman David Greenfield, Sam Sutton, co-chair of OU Advocacy-Teach NYS, and Nathan Diament, OU Executive Director for Public Policy. yemach shemom vezechrom

The OU's press release supporting Quinn YMS who has no problem with banning Milah
July 10, 2013                                                                               Roslyn Singer, 212-613-8227
Addressing a crowd of reform Jewish community, synagogue and day school lay leaders who convened at the formally Orthodox Union for the first meeting in a series of leadership forums with the mayoral candidates how come you only mention Quinn? , New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn YMS agreed to work with the community on the issue of security for non-public schools. where was she for the past 12 years?

of all the candidate Quinn has the worst record on helping Yeshiva parents and also promises the least yet these poshiem are supporting her.

“We’ve heard loud and clear now that it's an election year that this is an area where the non-public schools need help,” Quinn said, adding that she would work with the non-public school community to figure out the details.

During the OU Advocacy-Teach NYS-sponsored leadership forum, Speaker Quinn also spoke candidly about other issues of importance to the Jewish community, including aid for religious institutions damaged by Hurricane Sandy, enhancements to the police department, fair treatment of special needs children within the education system and improvements overall to New York City schools
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Saying “it doesn’t make sense at all” and only adds to the stress and duress of a family that is already in a stressful situation, Speaker Quinn said that, as mayor, she would remove the requirement for parents of special needs children to endure administrative hearings in order to have their local school district cover the cost of a private school placement for their child.

Speaker Quinn also spoke about the safety of New York City, stating that she would increase the size and strength of the police force as well as work to improve the technology available to the police. Noting that New York City has “the best hate crimes task force of any police department in the country,” Speaker Quinn said, “We should make New York City the first hate crimes free city in America,” adding that it’s “not acceptable” that mezuzahs were burned in Williamsburg, or that a man was killed in Greenwich Village because he was gay her comparing a mezuzah to a someone who is CHAYAV MISA is insulting and demeaning to the Torah, and the fact that the OU quoted the whole statement shows that they don't believe in whats in the mezuzah VECHARA AF HASHEM , or that Muslims in New York were attacked after the Boston Marathon.

New York City Council Speaker and mayoral candidate Christine Quinn meets with reform Jewish community, synagogue and day school lay leaders to discuss her vision for the city as mayor and address issues of concern to the Jewish you mean toevah community.





contact The OU and tell them to fire Jeff Leb (who helped pass toevah "marriage",) Maury Litwack, Sam Sutton, and Nathan Diament.

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Greenfield Brings The Lesbian Quinn To The OU

Despite her father being hospitalized and awaiting knee surgery, City Council Speaker Christine Quinn kept her commitment to attend a candidate forum with board members of the Orthodox Union at its Lower Manhattan headquarters Wednesday afternoon. Since it was a private meeting, but there were still press releases was she going there to try and legitimize her evil lifestyle? why would the OU board even meet with her?

Asked about a bill in the Council that would require the city to provide school safety officers in private schools, upon request, Quinn said she was looking at the issue. "We've heard loud and clear that this is an area where the non-public schools need help and we would like to work with them," she said. Noting that the state's Blaine Amendment restricts tax dollars for religious schools, Quinn said she wanted to work with private-school coalitions to see what was feasible. where has she been for the past 12 years?

Her remarks to the group extensively regarded her policies on public education, including extending the school day for older students. She stressed that she would uphold mayoral control of the school system because “it’s important for all city agencies to have the buck stop with the mayor.”  That statement drew applause from the OU leaders. and how is that important for the Jewish community?

She also expressed support for extending federal funds for recovering from Superstorm Sandy to faith-based and other nonprofit organizations.

In response to a question by Daniel Labovitz, president of the Solomon Schechter School of Manhattan why would the president of a Conservative School be at the OU debate? about the impact of the 91st Street Marine Transfer on the Upper East Side, Quinn said she continued to support the station because "every borough and every community needs to do its fair share to take care of its own garbage," and access to the East River for transporting trash on barges reduced truck traffic on city streets.

Quinn was also asked if she considered the West Bank to be occupied by Israel and this has to do with the race because?, an issue brought into the race when former congressman Anthony Weiner recently said he believed otherwise, in response to a blogger’s question on the campaign trail. Weiner at the time said he believed the status of the territories should be decided by those who live there and noted that there are differing views of what constitutes the West Bank.

Quinn, who has visited Israel several times on delegations sponsored by the Jewish Community Relations Council of New York, initially sidestepped the question from a JTA reporter, saying she was not familiar with what Weiner said and would have to look into it.

On Thursay a Quinn spokesman sent a statement to JTA and The Jewish Week saying "Chris believes the West Bank is a disputed territory and that the Israelis and Palestinians must sit down and negotiate a solution. As Mayor, Chris will use the bully pulpit of the office and everything she can to urge the two sides to sit and negotiate a peaceful resolution of the conflict through the establishment of two states for two peoples that ensures safety and security for the State of Israel." do we want this?

 how come no Questions about Chick-Fil-A?

 which shows how she attacks businesses who's owners are against toevah, that could mean she'll go after the Orthodox community.

Asked by The Jewish Week about the unlikely success of Weiner in the Democratic primary – polls show him ahead of or tied with Quinn at the top of the field – she insisted that would change in due course.
“Polls go up and down,” she said. “This has been a bit of a circus. That will come to an end as people focus on the issues. I’m exceedingly confident. New Yorkers know that talk is cheap.”

Quinn said both Weiner and former governor Eliot Spitzer, who declared his intention to run for city comptroller this week, had not earned second chances from the public.and when did she earn a second chance she's even worse then they are “You have to ask what have they been doing in the span of time since they left office,” Quinn said. “Were they working for the good of New Yorkers and the city? And what did they do with their time in office? Anthony Weiner passed one bill in his time in Congress and that was at the request of one of his donors.”

She was referring to a bill intended to fight cigarette tax evasion through Internet sales, which according to press reports benefitted a family friend and major campaign donor who sells cigarettes.

Quinn was introduced at the gathering by Councilman David Greenfield, who is Orthodox and represents parts of Borough Park and Flatbush. But Greenfield said he was not yet making an public endorsement in the mayoral race you have to be death blind and dumb to not see who he's really supporting, we should all therefore vote against him in the primary and general election.

Lawrence Quinn, 86, who has been a regular presence at his daughter's side throughout her tenure as speaker as well as on the campaign trail, was scheduled to have knee replacement surgery Thursday at the Hospital for Special Surgery. Quinn said she planned to visit him immediately after the OU session. since her record shows that she doesn't care at all about the Jewish community why did she blow off her father and go to a meeting to a community she hates?


(Jewish Week highlights mine)

Quinn spoke over sandwich wraps and sushi at a lunch meeting of roughly 40 guests of the O.U.’s advocacy arm, including representatives from the Sephardic Community Federation yet the leading Syrian Rabbaniem said it's a mitzva to support Erick Salgado, a largely Syrian-Jewish group. David Greenfield, a Democratic member of the New York City Council representing heavily Orthodox neighborhoods in Brooklyn, introduced Quinn. Greenfield has not endorsed anyone in the mayor’s race.

“She got a very warm reception today,” Greenfield told the Forward.

(Foward)

Lesbian Quinn Goes To An Orthodox Shul On Friday Night

 

 

Attorney General Eric Schneiderman accompanied Christine Quinn to Orthodox Shul on the Upper West Side Ohev Tzedek.  I do not know whether or not she got official approval from the Shul to show up, or if she even got any official acknowledgment that she was there.  It's also unclear if she used this opportunity to preach to Orthodox Jews about her "wife" like she did in Flatbush.  It is clear that for some reason she seems to be targeting the Orthodox Jewish community as of late (that makes zero political sense in terms of getting her elected) .  However It's clear to anybody with any sense that she only cares about our communities opposition to toevah, and by showing up for meaningless appearances she will lessen the Jewish communities opposition to toevah.

Anti Bris Milah Group To March Once Again In NY's Gay "Pride" Parade

Anti Bris Milah Group In Gay "pride" Parade (See the Child)

NYC Pride Parade Contingent - New York, New York

Event Dates: June 30, 2013 - 9:30am - 2:00pm

Members of Intact America, Intaction, and NYC Intactivists will march in the NYC Pride Parade to raise awareness of the damage caused by circumcision and the human right to genital integrity. Anyone who wishes to put an end to forced genital cutting including routine infant circumcision is welcome to participate in the march.
Event Details

see the video of last year's march

Will any politician condemn this group or the toeviah "pride" parade that allowed them to march (they only march in gay "pride parade")?

Will Christine Quinn and Bill De Blasio openly support the group to ban Bris Milah because there gay.


Will Anthony Weiner who seemed to be in agreement with Erick Salgado about the movement to ban Bris Milah, (and thus didn't seem to care about the "New York's gay "pride parade" line because he "understood" the context) continue to pander to the LGBT "community", or was he really only pandering to our community, and will defend the toevah parade's decision to allow anti Bris Milah groups to march, and attack anyone who wants to defend Bris Milah by mentioning that the threat is serious because they march every year in New York's  gay "pride" parade.

• “Anthony did not understand Reverend Salgado’s remarks,” wrote Barbara Morgan, Weiner’s spokeswoman, in an email. “He did applaud Speaker Quinn’s response because he agreed with it.” (gaycitynews)

Some politicians who marched in last years gay pride parade were NY Governor Andrew Cuomo, Senators Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, Congressman Jerrold Nadler, Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney, and Mayoral Candidates Christine Quinn, and Bill DeBlasio.   Though he couldn't march personally Daniel Squadron Williamsburg's State Senator and NYC Public Advocate Candidate sent representatives to march in his place!

Ezra Friedlander And VIN Say You Should Vote For Quinn The Lesbian (With Rebuttal)

New York - "Ezra Friedlander: I’m Voting For Christine Quinn For Mayor, And So Should You" Published on: vosizneias How can VIN allow this trash to be posted?  As YWN gets better VIN gets worse.  I think the ban on VIN came a few years too early! Today 05:37 PM By: Op-Ed By Ezra Friedlander (highlighted parts are mine)

New York - In less than 90 days from now, New York City will vote in the Democratic Primary for mayor.
Elections are about determining the future of our city and our ability to enjoy the quality of life and whether our children ask us how come our mayor was talking about her "wife" when she visited their school, however we choose to live. Elections for mayor should be based on whoever best fits the criteria as outlined in the city charter.  I will cast my ballot for NYC Council Speaker Chris Quinn and I urge the members of our community to do the same.

The dialogue so far in our community has not concentrated enough on the issues that truly matter. We should focus on choosing a mayor who possesses the following attributes: I'm sure many Nazis has these qualities smart, sensible, stable, strong, and sensitive. Christine Quinn is just the candidate who has these qualities is talking about her "wife" in front of a Orthodox Jewish crowd being sensitive to the concerns of the Orthodox community? of an ideal New York City mayor. If she's doing that before she becomes mayor imagine what she will Chas Veshalom do if she is elected.

Most candidates for public office will promise everything to everyone and ultimately make no one happy. Those who do not make empty promises satisfy more people because they are true to their word. The old saying of “promise less and deliver more” seems appropriate here. When candidates are sincere, they may give statements you do not want to hear, however, you can believe they will deliver on commitments they do make.

For me, the turning point in deciding to write this op-ed was precisely when Speaker Quinn decried the pandering of the other candidatesI guess pandering to the gay "community" is fine. It was precisely what she was not promising that convinced me that when she does make a commitment, you can bank on it. I have known Quinn since her earliest days in the New York City Council prior to her becoming speaker and her record exhibits that she is sincere and dependable.

What should be most important to you as a voter, is a mayor who empathizes with the constituents. Christine Quinn’s record of public service you mean like going after Chick Fil A and not her personal life demonstrates that she has the unique insights to understand the challenges and particular needs of the Orthodox Jewish Community like when she had no objection to the gay pride parade allowing anti Bris Milah people to march in it, or her understanding the Jewish communities concerns about .

paper the lesbian Christine Quinn sent to force Chick-Fil-A out of NYC for being against toevah "marriage"

There is a notion that those in public life need to mirror their constituents. This belief is a fallacy of the highest magnitude. Many people before me have made the argument that it is in the community’s best interest not to have a member of our community in the oval office (or for that matter, city hall) but rather one who can best govern in a way that addresses the real concerns like YU being forced to allow lesbians in their dormitory of our community. One may argue the pros and cons of this approach, but my point is that you don’t have to be a card carrying member of our community or subscribe to our tenets to represent us well A mayor whether we like it or not is a role model and her as a mayor will effect our children when they ask us how come she talked about her "wife".

Let me be clear. Torah values must be part and parcel of our daily existence. It is the only map a religious Jew must call upon to navigate the complexities of daily life . Torah values belong in our home and in our interactions with one another. Torah values belong in the way we conduct business as prescribed in the highest ethos of Jewish Law; and in the way we want to educate and raise our children. And yes, Torah values should play a central role in how we present ourselves to secular society every day and on every issue. So the Torah belongs everywhere except in politics?

However, in that same secular society, it is unrealistic and frankly short-sighted to expect those in government to live by those same high Torah standards 50 years ago it would be almost impossible to find anybody (Jew or Non-Jew) who would agree with voting for Quinn we as religious people set for ourselves toevah is one of the 7 mitvos B'nai Noach and toevah "marriage" is one of the reason why God allowed the Mabul (Bereishis Rabbah). Those who want to raise the banner of Torah values in a political context ultimately dilute Torah values please explain to what Torah your talking about? and the ability for our community to engage effectively in the political world.

Ezra please explain to me this Radak? Does it not clearly say we're supposed to help the world follow the Sheva Mitvos? 

You may hear a radically different perspective from those with their own agenda but as one who deals with elected officials every single day for over two decades and gets paid very well to promote them no matter how bad they are, voters who care about their community and the many challenges facing us, would be wise to at least consider a different opinion. like when we voted for Bloomberg?
Politics is not the Bais Medrash So we're only supposed to follow the Torah in the bais Medrash. None of the serious mayoral candidates reflect our lifestyle If Erick Salgado would get as much money from the Orthodox community as Quinn got he would be one, nor do they have to, in order be effective advocates for our community you mean like how Quinn was an advocate for Chick-Fil-A.

To all those trying to inject Torah values into this campaign or any political campaign, recent history shows,  though you may have the community’s best interests at heart, your efforts are counter-productive and damaging. How? Recent history has shown when you vote for pro toeivah candidate they push worse legislation on the Jewish community like Bloomberg with MBP!

Historically, the vast majority of American rabbinical leadership did not inject religion or express the opinion that secular public officials in a democratic society adopt a Torah position or platform that's because historically there was no movement to legalize, endorse and solemnize the violation of the sheva mitzvos. Nor did the rabbinic leadership personally raise the issue of religion and politics even when they interacted with those running for or sitting in elected office Rav Moshe Feinstein urged all Jews to protest Koch's gay rights bill. It is only a relatively new phenomenon that only started after the toevah movement started that grew as rabbaniem found out about the movement and grew even more when they realized how far they wanted to go that we use a moral or religious litmus test before considering a candidate for office.

Once we fuse religion and politics and use religion as the only litmus test to support or oppose a particular candidate, it could lead to a dangerous downward spiral that completely closes government’s door to our needs and concerns. our main concern is the Torah everything else is secondary  Don’t believe it? It’s already happening. Proof? Bloomberg's attack on religious stores in Williamsburg is the single biggest attack on freedom of religion in this cities history.  Williamsburg is the Jewish community which unfortunately votes the least based on Torah Values and the most based on money, yet they were the ones that were targeted.

Once we mix religion and politics, every religious viewpoint will have a right to air their beliefs in the political discourse that's been happening for 100's of years already, Toevah movement is like a religion and they are targeting anybody who disagrees. This country has a very strict interpretation of separation of church and state like Bergen County still having Blue Laws banning working on sunday?. For us don't link me and you , the word Torah is warm, welcoming, and sacrosanct; but perhaps the viewpoint of other religions is not so welcoming or interested in our way of life. Hence, it is in our self-interest not to allow anyone to dictate their religious principles on others. the attacks on our freedom of religion in recent years have not come from religious groups but from the secular/atheist left (MBP, suing stores in Williamsburg, targeting mayiem shelanu in matzohs, YU's toeivah club, YU's being forced to allow lesbians in their dormitory etc.)

Our overriding concern should always be to protect our right to conduct our lives in the religious fashion which we hold dear. and what about the fact that the acceptance of homosexuality by society (which laws affect which are voted on by politicians that we vote for) has been destroying our communities, leading to "Orthodox rabbis" making gay weekends, having gays march in the Israeli Day Parade (which Rav Aaron Soloveitchik assured) plus a "Orthodox" newspaper agreed with, having a "orthodox rabbi" testifying in favor of toevah "marriage", and worst of all having toavah groups speaking in our Yeshivas It is the very reason our ancestors came to these safe shores Isn't Quinn the worst on MBP?. Furthermore, as an electoral minority, forcing our viewpoint upon others will only be counterproductive. It’s about the numbers and on a Citywide or statewide basis; we simply don’t have the numbers to dictate to anybody.didn't you also say that before Weprin's vs Turner's election?


The role of government in regards to religion is to allow us as individuals to raise our families in the religious tradition with which we wish to convey. To that extent we want government’s cooperation, nothing more. We also should not want to impose our religious beliefs on secular society. the toevah movement imposed their  changes society but we can't try to change it back?

I am convinced that Christine Quinn as Mayor of New York City will not only be sympathetic to the unique challenges facing our community like MBP or telling Orthodox Jews about "when she married her "wife"?, but will surpass all expectations. you mean she'll try to ban Milah altogether like the Toevah parade marchers wants her to do? That is because a mayor who is strong and sensitive as Christine Quinn has proven herself to be understanding of the needs of our community and supportive of us when? rumor has it that she even withheld childcare voucher from our community because we were against toeivah.  Her strong leadership in the City Council and her ability to work with Mayor Bloomberg is indicative of her ability to govern effectively. you mean like helping Bloomberg get a 3rd term which led to the biggest attacks on our freedom of religion in this cities history?

It is very easy to be a steadfast ideologue unwilling to compromise, and a hero to a very narrow constituent base. However, a real leader like Christine Quinn understands the need to be effective so that government can be a catalyst for good, even if imperfect. Christine Quinn also understands how to stand up for those who need a strong advocate. when has she ever stood up for the Orthodox Jewish community a minority within a minority?

I am convinced that Christine Quinn as Mayor of New York City will not only be sympathetic to the unique challenges facing our community, but will surpass all expectations. That is because a mayor who is strong and sensitive as Christine Quinn has proven herself to be understanding of the needs of our community and supportive of us.  Her strong leadership in the City Council and her ability to work with Mayor Bloomberg is indicative of her ability to govern effectively. didn't you just say this?

It is very easy to be a steadfast ideologue unwilling to compromise, and a hero to a very narrow constituent base. However, a true leader like Christine Quinn understands the need to be effective so that government can be a catalyst for good Toeivah is good? please look up the pasuk yishaya 5-20 Woh to those people (this means you) who call good evil and evil good, even if imperfect.

Christine Quinn also understands how to stand up for those who need a strong advocate.
I am convinced that Christine Quinn will understand the struggles of a middle class Orthodox Jewish family in our community middle class possibly, Orthodox not at all. She can relate to a special needs child whose parents are fighting the bureaucracy and need to get their child approved in an appropriate school setting.

Christine Quinn will ensure that Yeshiva kids have their transportation needs taken care of, recognizing the safety concerns of a late dismissal. Christine Quinn demonstrates that she understands the challenges of the middle class by public stating that city fines should be a warning only for the first time with any financial consequences, providing that it is a non-emergency related.

Christine Quinn understands the importance of preserving communities communities include a way of life which to Jews means the Torah, she is against that and due to her experience as housing organizer. Christine Quinn understands the invaluable communal infrastructure that the Orthodox community has built in NYC and our commitment to this city what good is that infrastructure if we abandon the Torah. Her blueprints for creating affordable housing will help our community continue to flourish We can't flourish in a society that allows and approves of toevah "marriage" as we see in Rabbeinu Behaye and grow in New York City.

Ezra please explain this to me, or maybe your father can explain this to you. Rabbeinu Behaye (parshas shoftiem) says it was forbidden to live in Egypt because of toevah. we see elsewhere (toras kohaniem on the pasuk quoted) the toevah referred to in this pasuk was same gender "marriage"!

When it comes to politics, I always keep the following expression in mind, “Don’t be right, be smart.” I urge you to understand, don’t be right. Elections are not about being right on every issue; start thinking smart. Elections are about being able to deliver for our community, children, and continuity as people or Torah Jews?. Christine Quinn as mayor will achieve all those objectives except the Torah Jews part.
Ezra Friedlander is CEO of The Friedlander Group a NYC and Washington DC public policy consulting firm. This last line is Ezra's whole article, the rest of his article is just commentary!

 

More Proof Of FJCC/COJO Of Flatbush Corruption: The Case Of Yosef Rapaport

supporter of toevah Yosef Rapaport

As we recently reported someone from the FJCC/COJO went around telling reporters not to report on the event and specifically Erick Salgado the only candidate who it's not assur to vote for!
The fact that Yosef Rapaport in his recent article did not even mention the name of the candidate who won the debate or the fact that he ignores Quinn's and DeBlasio's disregard for the gay "communities" attack on Bris Milah gives further proof that the FJCC/COJO is corrupt.

He furthermore openly distorts the facts of the debate by implying that Weiner spoke after someone screamed out shame, which is clearly disproved by the video.

(editors note) Yosef Rapaport deleted some of his tweets, and made more restrictions after we replied to them.

by Yosef Rapaport (former editor of the Hamodia) (comments highlighted)
There you have it [Hat Tip to Jacob Kornbluh] my interview with Anthony Weiner where he basically endorsed Weiner who sponsored the bill in Congress for toeivah "marriage". In the background you see Yermi Brenner who did a story on the event for the Forward. For a better audio of the chat before the forum organized by FJCC and COJO of Flatbush, click here

It was a very lively debate, with one heckler who interrupted Bill DeBlasio when he mentioned the  word “LGBT” with shouts of “Shame” and other invectives after DeBlasio defended the LGBT communities attack on Bris Milah altogether .  I have observed over the years candidates who speak to mostly  Orthodox audiences avoid the topic altogether because our askoniem who HATE the Torah don't bring it up and the politicians know they'll get the askoniem and fake rabbaineim support anyways. Most Haredim [Ultra-Orthodox] are content with that standoff only haradiem who are charid from politicians; haradiem who are charid HKB are gainst toeivah. After all virtually all politicians -especially those running for citywide office- have the same views on social issues because they know that our askoniem who control many votes don't care about Torah only kavod.
The issue is how do we as Orthodox Jews find our place in a this big metropolis and have our rights and needs protected. Many zealots in our community have a view that the issue of “LGBT” should be not only be at the forefront of Haredi concerns; it must be the ‘only’ demand the Orthodox have!  Concern for Yeshivos in general, for Special Needs Children, Security for Yeshivos and Institutions should be set aside. Hatzolah„ Shomrim, Ohel, Misaskim all should fend for themselves the main purpose of government is to make and enforce laws (see mishna in avos) not getting money from non jews, (which is called a chillul hashem and is only allowed in very limited cases: see YD hilchos tzdeaka). Even Metzitza BePeh should be at most, of secondary concern.yes toeivah "marriage" effects us even in Williamsburg. Even more the toevah community is the biggest pushers behind banning Milah altogether in this country
Those who hold this opinion -and they are many- direct most of their anger at Haredi Jewish Organizations for not making this the one-and-only test in this and other elections of any politician seeking Orthodox support. So the Hecklers were out there mostly to embarrass the organizers; that failed and for her part Ms. Quinn took the cue and was not shy to mention “my wife” in response to the heckler. she said it the strongest around 45 minutes later!
Obviously presuming she has nothing to lose with our community anyways. so if let's say he din'd scream out shame we should have voted for her?
I have a feeling that the great majority of Orthodox Jews, even even? if they deeply abhor the gay lifestyle, recognize that government support and tolerance of our religious practices sometimes depend on having an understanding with government you mean how the pro toevah candidate Bloomberg respected MBP and the BDB and Quinn had no problem with banning Milah altogether only saying that the LGBT "community" is behind it. The demand “to-be-left-alone” regarding MBP ultimately rests with an appeal for fairness remember this video, that is solidly grounded in American law and polity. Those laws are based on the same principles that give the LGBT community their right to behave has they please.
I won’t provide a link to the words “they please”, but mohel’s practitioners of MBP can point to the NY City Dept of Health treatment of high risk behavior in Bars and Bathhouses from whom the Department never demands that any of their clients must sign any form, or from bath-keepers to keep form records on file for a year the most anti MBP candidate is Quinn she is also the most pro toevah
So on the issue of MBP and the Orthodox struggle to prevent the city from regulating the procedure, Haredim might have to resort to an appeal to principles that are based on the same grounds that give rights to others with whom we strongly disagree.didn't you sell us the same line 4 years ago regarding the pro toevah Bloomberg
Anthony Weiner hit this point during the debate when he passionately pointed out, that “I am a proud liberal, but I believe that regarding many issues including “metzitzah bepeh” there is a such a thing as ‘liberal elitism’ which i oppose” as he went on to explain principles of tolerance and religious liberty he only said that because of the fact that Erick Salgado called out the toevah "communities support for banning Milah altogether!
For that he got strong applause [and silence from the heckler]. the heckler only called out "shame" after Weiners speech as you can clearly see on the video; which YOU don't want the Jewish community to know about.
(yoinecohen.com)

 Since obviously YR is an am haretz and thinks halachly there is no problem with toevah "marriage" since "it doesn't effect us".

Rabbeinu Behaye (parshas shoftiem) says it was forbidden to live in Egypt because of toevah. we see elsewhere (toras kohaniem on the pasuk quoted) the toevah referred to in this pasuk was same gender "marriage"